It was an unexpected delight to be invited to interview Roberta Flack recently, still performing at 75 years of age with a beautiful singing voice, wit charm and experience well beyond X-Factor and American Idol wannabes. Let’s begin with a brief reminder of that beautiful singing, writing, playing and performing talent:
Here’s some insights from our dialogue which went on well past the TV interview:
Roberta on Teaching and Learning
Flack started her career teaching music at schools and privately in Washington D.C. Reflecting on this she said she had some wonderful opportunities compared with the other students. Teachers would leave the room and say “Carry on Roberta”. Asked about what qualities they thought she possessed to get this request, Roberta said in a typically self-effacing manner that she had a fairly big mouth! This ignores all her other qualities: an articulate style; a passion for her subject (in her case all forms of music) and an ability to reach other people’s heads, hearts and souls. These are all transferable qualities for great leaders in any field. Asked what she had learned through her life she learned to appreciate everything that came her way, even those songs that she knew she could not or would not sing. At one point she accompanied aspiring opera singers on piano in Georgetown and she got to meet and meet John F Kennedy, who attended the club. In the course of working there, Flack had to learn to play songs that she had never played. Reflecting on this she said:
“As a musician, when you get an opportunity to learn something that you don’t know, and to really learn and play it and execute it well, is such a thrill”
There is a direct parallel here for leaders in any field. As Tom Peters says, execution is everything. That relies on deep learning, the so-called 10 000 hours effect as quoted by Malcolm Gladwell. Musicians are used to the idea of deep practice as are great leaders. Check out the full interview here:
Transferable Lesson : To become a great learner, learn to teach and teach people to learn
Roberta on Creativity and Reinterpretation
Flack took on the awesome task of reinterpreting a selection of songs by The Beatles in 2012 – Let It Be Roberta, having lived nearby to and also become good friends with John Lennon many years before. Reinterpreting a canon of work of such magnificence presents the artist with an enormous challenge as to how faithful you remain to the original or whether to do something quite different with the songs, which are almost untouchable. Flack wisely chose to do something different with the material to stunning effect. Reflecting on this, Roberta said that, it helped to be a classically trained musician. She was taught by Hazel Harrison, a music teacher from Howard University who excelled in Bach and music of the Baroque period. Roberta said:
“If you can hold on to your love for playing the piano and play Bach this way, rather than playing it like Chopin or Mozart, you will have accomplished something”
So, Flack learned to sight read all the pieces that the opera singers wanted her to play and make the music come to life rather than just to read the notes on the paper. She was also stretched all the time by people who asked her to modify the pieces at will. This level of adaptive behaviour provided her will the skill to get inside the heart of the musician and interpret the piece for the singers she had before her. Undoubtedly this learning was formative in terms of her ability to reinterpret The Beatles material whilst staying true to the heart of the music.
Transferable Lesson : Act from your heart to find your soul
Roberta on new Business models
We held a fascinating after interview chat about Prince and his recent decision to work again with Warner Brothers after 20 years of producing his music independently. Roberta acknowledged the difficulty of gaining funding for your work in the modern age. Off camera we had a long chat about money and artistry. In her own case she set up The Real Artist Symposium, a gathering creative artists who own their own work and have worked with her to help give them a platform for their work. This is just one of a number of new funding models that have emerged. We recently commented on Bernie Torme’s Crowdfunding Experiment as another exemplar of innovation. These models are also apparent in other fields, such as publishing, where downloading has democratised the creative process but also made it much harder for artists to earn a living from their art. Business people would do well to learn that if what you are doing isn’t working, do something different.
Transferable Lesson : If your business model is broken, find a new one rather than banging your head against the same wall
And finally, a beautiful rendition of “Killing Me Softly”:
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